very serious legal trouble in the span of two years. how did you go about covering jeffrey thompson? >> well, that began with -- i the mayor.er i used to cover the mayor's office. mayoral ered the 2010 campaign. assigned to ually cover the day-to-day, the campaign and that was the at the time. and he was the main opponent of vincent gray who was chairman at the time. so, you know, covered the mall campaign. i was most interested in watching kind of downfalls ecause, you know, everyone saw it coming. and that was my job.

shortly after the -- after won, iok off, because he eard from sulaiman brown would run for mayor. it ended up he had a job in the odd.istration which was and then the next thing you knew, he was fired and then he do you ing me and said want to talk? and i was like, sure. we knew, he thing described some serious orruption about being paid in the campaign to disparage on the campaign trail. another.g led to a big investigation, a federal investigation. and, you know, the federal learned tors actually that there was something much on which they called the shadow campaign. kind of a parallel campaign to the gray that was done in secret.

reported.t it was $650,000, nothing to sneeze at. allegedly, jeffrey thompson was the sole funder of that $650,000. >> you have to keep using the word allegedly? that?is >> he has not been indicted or charged. have l people around him been charged. ut this is a very long investigation. his attorney is brendan sullivan, a very good attorney. being able to et delays and he actually abilitythe prosecutor's to look at some evidence that retrieved from some raids on jeffrey thompson's a es and offices, more than year ago. >> just to remind some of the olks listening that brendan sullivan, he represented ollie

in h before the committee congress. he said, what am i? a potted plant? he represented ted stevens and convicted.s was the current attorney general threw that out. e's a $1,000 lawyer in this town. > he is, jeffrey thompson can afford it. i think we're in for the long haul with this. brendan sullivan is known for if you want to charge my client, trial.go to >> you say in the article that he current mayor, vincent gray's attorney is bob bennett. >> yet another bigtime attorney. interesting thing about ennett is that vincent gray's daughter is a very good attorney and she's like a -- one could of bennett.rotege so there's a relationship there he's had with vincent gray

issue, y ran into this bennett.ned mr. >> let's catch everybody up. this is a d.c. thing. but before we -- i want to show of the former mayor and ask you about him. the american taxpayer have to do with the district of columbia? away from and you say why are they talking about the district of columbia? nation's capital. be very hould also interested because despite the fact that you see the city and it as separate from he federal and the capitol is , this is a city that still governed by congress. the you know all of american taxpayers have a say in that. that the something

district of columbia have struggled with through the years. oner vincent gray made that of his main platforms in his administration to finally get city some representation on the hill. but -- > are they balancing their budget? >> the city is balancing its budget. >> vincent gray used to be the city council?e how many members on the city council? >> 13. >> who elects them? voters.city's how many people live in this district now? up.t's going >> yes, it continues to go up. let's show adrian phinney here you n interview in 2006 so can put him in context of this story. philosophy of politics, you have to understand what you're charging. ceo of ge is to be the the district of columbia, to be

the political leader and make ure my employees are great public servants. when corruption happens, it people lose se sight of what they're in it for. eople are following the money, sometimes it's people following a type of power. not what i'm going to talk about. i'm going to stay focussed? of as he ever been accused being corrupt? >>y, in the 2010 campaign, you vincent gray, then the council chairman, he took full advantage of some story written, actually, administration. ossibly favoring some friends of adrian finty. lived here, you saw television ads that presented it that way. incent grey's slogan is character, leadership.

that character and integrity, direct shots of the fintey administration at that corrupt. ed of being >> he was never indict? >> he was never indicted or any investigations other than d.c. council investigation hich ironically was led by folks who ended up going to jail for other things, like the other council members you members. thomas jr.own, harry >> michael brown. > let's show vince grey who beat adrian finney in what year? >> 2010. beat him?ly did he >> oh, it was handy. points.everal the polls showed that fintey was going to lose. he was still going to fight at end. >> i think adrian fintey was he took years old when over as mayor, something like that. >> he was the youngest mayor in history. and so vincent gray really

you know,kind of a -- he was the exact opposite. he was friendlier. older. much and you know folks got behind him. > let's watch vincent grey and you have to listen to the reporter asking him questions. e's already mayor when this is recorded. >> this is not the campaign that run, tom.ed to people, i any, many got into this for the right reasons. i probably could have stayed on council chair or done nothing further. i got out there to be involve in this because i love the district of columbia. i'm a native washitonian. 'm a product of the schools of the city. i'm a product in almost every way of the district of columbia. redundant, but i got in this for the right reasons. >> if you were someone not sort of looking at this from outside, what would think? i mean, would you think your

administration is corrupt? theory? your >> it's unfair to say our administration. i have distinguished between the the administration. and, sam, if there's something about our administration that finger on, put your i would invite you to do that. but it's an unfair characterization. -- specifically licall icalliiy talking about this administration? campaign versus governing. the mayor. >> absolutely. mayor, isoking at this the mayor corrupt? >> there are a lot of people who probably will have that question. i am. who i get up in the morning every mirror and in the see somebody i respect, tom. >> corrupt, this has been going years.a couple of where are we in whatever investigation you've been cover ing? five ht now, we've seen people indicted already. campaign.to the gray

pleaded guilty and admitted to payments to sulaiman brown, the gentleman i mentioned earlier. who ran against gray and criticized him a lot but was being paid supposedly or was he people?ray >> he was being paid. and there's proof to that and --t has all been >> so he's a phony candidate? >> well, you wouldn't -- you couldn't call him a phony candidate. he got into the race and then it was presented to him. i should get h, paid for beating up on fenty. that's what happened. we've seen three other the one ead guilty to person pleaded guilty to her role in the shadow campaign. and the other two people had affiliations with one of companies. and they admitted that they had donors.raw you know, we haven't really gotten into that part. hat the federal investigators

learned -- and this probe, is idea that now, this jeffrey thompson allegedly was, he had this entire network of contributors that he campaigns.ive to but, you know, allegedly, it was really just his money. we're not talking about, you know, $2,000. we're talking about thousands and thousands of dollars, and we're not just talking about the great we're talking about like, you know, federal elections. e're talking about elections outside of the city. know, a long ou reach. $322 ain, you mentioned million or whatever it was earlier. jeffrey thompson has what kind of a business. he had two businesses -- one, he had an accounting firm. then the other business was a managed care firm where, you know, residents who can't afford

or can't -- can't afford -- or qualify for medicaid or medicare use this, you know, the city program to get health care. and he managed the care for those residents. taking about $100,000 customers. 100,000 customers. there's only 600,000 in the district. this care, hem need they don't qualify for medicare or medicaid. how much money did jeffrey get from the district of columbia in all of the friends that he helped fund for his company? contracts chartered alone was $322 million. >> one time? >> a year. per year. >> a year? yes. >> by the end, it was up to $322 million. and we're talking about a that he bought in 2000 million. and at that time, the company made about $26 million a year. so, you know, this is a person

who, you know, really built the up.any you know, some may believe that it was through corrupt means, but, you know, other folks say he was very savvy. he was very smart. he built this company up. one of the things i found in reporting my story is that this basically just the circle of know. you he would get the money from the city and then he would give to is charities and to his family and to his friends and then, you know, somehow that money would back around to the candidates who would become council members and they would this contract. so, yeah, very interesting. >> in your article, there's a lot of photography. of jeffrey cture thompson. it says like mother and son. this is a picture of dorothy height. we had her here as a guest one time. who was she? now.w she's deceased > she was a civil rights and a women's rights icon.

if you ask anyone, you know, you that dorothy height height. if you met her, they would tell you she was an incredible woman. began making money, making a lot of money, he saw her organization, the national of negro women of which decades, esident for he saw her organization as a andp that he wanted to help give to. the organization has the only black-owned building on pennsylvania avenue. jeffrey thompson was instrumental in helping to buy that building. you tell the story in there about how she called him. >> i tell the story -- the took a lot of research.

was able to look up lots of things. and luckily c. span records so that are important public and you recorded jeffreyrial service and thompson runs that retail service. >> he's not been charged with anything. has there been a grand jury. there's been a federal grand jury. and i should say one of the comfortable el so riting about him is that in many court documents, the court unnamed, describe an nindicted, co-conspirator and it's a perfect description of jeffrey thompson. >> you tried to ask if there was one? talked to the lawyer, or --

>> i talked to brenda sullivan. for the van is known policy of not talking to the edia and not allowing his lients to talk to the media until it's completed and he sticks to that script and i respect that. jeffrey thompson at the funeral for dorothy height. to bind the time contract on the building. when it was to be done. call from n urgent dr. height. my id, dr. height, i told secretary, i would call her back. she insisted on speaking with me. thompson, my son, you must come now. now! i dropped everything. got in the cab, went to see her. when i walked into her office, the winds were out

certain ils because a shoulders shehoms climbed to reach success. i said, mother height, what will do? we must get this deal completed. she said. height, give me a few minutes to reflect. she said, mr. thompson, see what you can do. you ever met him? >> i have met jeffrey thompson. yes. talk to u -- did you him at all ever about any of this? >> no, i certainly tried. way before i started researching him.article, i ran into a social event. there are many in washington, d.c. nikita mr. thompson, i'm

stewart. i said do you think we could talk now? remember he said, no. >> how old is he? >> 58. is he from? >> from jamaica in the perish of st. elizabeth. >> how did he get to the united states? >> he moved here with his father other siblings before he moved here, his mother had come here. and two of his siblings passed away and she was upset according family members and she needed to get away. she decided to come to d.c. to and then theatives rest of her family followed her a few years later. how old was he when he came to the united states. >> he was only 19 years old. he -- he had an education in jamaica. nothing that would really

united states. so he had to start from scratch and earn a g.e.d. and went to university of the district of columbia. >> who was the first person he met in the united states who made the connections and went on have with the politicians? > several people he met along the way. i don't know if i can pinpoint the first person. had a relationship with up beingrman who ended secretary of labor under president clinton. a big connection. it opened the world in the white attended a state dinner for nelson mandela. >> were they dating? yes, they were. he ran in those circles.

delegate to eleanor olmes norton who we all see on colbert. that is how the rest of the country sees her. the nonvoting delegate who's trying to get right to vote. but in 1990 when she was first seat, she ran at into some tax troubles and urned to jeffrey for some advice. actually outlined in autobiography. interesting to see how this man, when the story broke two years like, who's ere jeffrey thompson. of him.heard a lot of the local main stream can remember seeing the black n a lot of

weeklies documenting his charities. i knew this person. i knew he had city contracts but don't think people understood behind-the-scenes player he was starting years ago both government. to the >> i want to run a piece of what on a website of you. that's new for the post? >> yes, yes, it's new. used a lot of new echnology that we're trying at "the washington post." maybe technology is the wrong word. website ando to our you read my story, it's in a different template than what stories.e with other this ere like, let's try video. it's similar to something that frontline has done. we did it.ame and i think it turned out nice.

>> is this the first television you've done? >> no. do in your did you past? >> just local television. in 2008, i was assigned to the of president obama. at the time, president-elect obama. i made a few appearances because reporters f the covering the inauguration. > so people that don't read "the washington post," this is four pages in a newspaper sunday, to this on a july 14. how can you find it if i want to read your whole story? to "washington post".com. write in jeffrey thompson or investigations, you i call it there's a a book mark menu at the top of if you click on it, the story will appear. recap.s is a we're going to look at this

ideo and it's about 2 1/2 minutes. >> three years ago, mayor adrian fenti and council chairman vincent gray faced each other in one of the most contentious and expensive elections in d.c.'s history. fenty raised nearly $5 million his seat. the vincent gray won $1.2 million ut he won as an affable and effective chairman. he beat fenty. 2011, ray took office in sulaiman brown, who had run for mayor, told "the washington he was paid and promised a job in exchange for disparaging fenty in the election. federal investigators soon discovered that much of brown's story was true. they uncovered a bigger secret -- the shadow campaign. $653,000 was spent and gray's behalf. on

allegedly, just one man was jeffrey at money, thompson. jamaican immigrant who moved to the united states from the 1970s, thompson earned the went to college, and built a small empire. accounting firm thompson associates and he owned d.c.'s charter health plan which earned $322 million a year in city es, the largest contract by a vendor. rubbed elbows with the likes winfrey and dorothy height. he became known as a top fundraiser for a local candidate. but federal investigators alleged donors' contributions from d by thompson came him or his firm. to date, five people have guilty. one of gray's campaign aides pleaded guilty to destroying shows payments to

sulaiman brown. aide pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about those payments. associate of both gray and thompson pleaded guilty to campaign violations and admitted shadow campaign. two men with the accounting firm pleaded guilty to misdemeanor campaign violations, saying they were fraud donors with money and involved their relatives in the scam. > small point, where was that actually taped? >> that was taped in the wilson hall.ing which is city they don't call it city hall here. hey call it the wilson building. the wilson building is a facility. with decided it would be a good setting for this story. how long did it take you to do? >> two hours. go back to the mayor.

the mayor as he sits in his job right now. he's been there since 2011. all of 2012. has he been charged with anything? >> he has not been charged and emerged in any court documents saying that the was aware at all of the or ents to sulaiman brown the -- you know, that he had any awareness of these shadow campaigns. i think i read in your piece that the shadow campaign offices vincent t next door to gray for mayor offices? >> yes. >> have you seen those side-by-side yourself? >> yes. explain to nd someone not involved what a works, ampaign, how it why jeffrey thompson is in the mix. a lot to explain. you have the regular campaign on.g then you had another set of

olks who were in an offers right next to the gray campaign. ow, during the campaign, there is so much going on. several workers were omplaining, several official workers complaining about the other workers because they felt paid more.etting there was a lot of confusion as was paying them, etc. it wasn't until a year later started to put things together and investigators started to ask questions. ait a minute, the folks next door, we can't find any record of this emin the campaign finance records that we see. so how did they get paid and who was in charge of them. hat is how, you know, the -- you know, it went back to thompson. jeffrey >> how did he allegedly raise this money, the $650,000 in the campaign? courtwas his according to documents that describe him but

don't name him. district of columbia, has there been a republican mayor? >> no. >> has there ever been a white mayor? >> no. this in this mix, investigation, the u.s. attorney's black. >> yes, he is. tell us anything about ron matschen? is -- he's hen tough. he is -- he takes his time. they st of the public, know him best with this kind to call it phone tapping situation with reporters. a little in that mix. locally, he has made corruption, you know, especially government corruption and corruption in politics, that is he is trying to

dc, but , not only in in other jurisdictions. > you covered some of this in your piece. how many people has he indicted and convicted or copped a plea it is in this process that's been going on since 2011? this particular investigation, there have been five people. it to looking nd nto the other council members, michael brown, kwame brown, no harry thomas jr., you've had several agencies that locally.ed at you've had federal agencies. are actually much even sit i couldn't here and begin to tell you how any people have been convicted or pleaded guilty under -- during his tenure. quite the number is

high. he is very serious about this corruption. >> michael brown is the son of on brown of the secretary of commerce died in bosnia in an ago.lane crash some years what did michael brown do that plea.

let threw the plea in to folks know they know what's going on all these years. >> will he be indicted? >> yes, i believe he will be indicted. >> what's the timetable? this has been going on for a long time. wish i could tell you the timetable, i can't. after my story, we had another tory written by my colleague and i was contributor. she covered the u.s. attorney's office. has signed thompson a waiver to -- that -- he's his rights to the statute of limitations. these -- we're going years, e years or six nd so now the federal investigators have more time to investigate. there's no telling how long this will last. ow, our belief is that the thinking of the u.s. attorney's once they charge

jeffrey thompson, they have to ready to go to trial right away. you don't want to mess with him. vincent the guy like gray, the mayor, paying for bob bennett? >> the mayor makes $200,000 a year. was a career -- he used to work at the department city.lth for the of the he director department of health many, many years ago. i'm sure he has money saved up. i wish i could answer you, you now, how much is bob bennett charging per hour. i don't have that answer. from thely not too far $1,000 an hour. far.ot too that vincent pect gray will be there.

the mayor? >> not sure. you ask me one day. and i think the federal to do gators are going something. one of jeffrey thompson's friends tells me one thing about the meeting. friend of the mayor says another thing happened. and he said it's going to be a said/she said. i don't know what evidence will have if any. here's another "washington post" person. a columnist been here a couple times talking about all of this. i want to throw him into the mix been unrelenting saturday after saturday after saturday. king. colbert

think that brown just timeasted fenty time after after time. some skill in his comments and to fenty an opportunity respond. he didn't respond. e didn't know at the time that sulaiman brown was paid by the behave that way. >> do you think all of these eople thought they could get away with this? >> yes. >> why haven't they? where are are the pressure points, including the post? happened, i was saying this two years ago that things that many of being ngs folks are charged with. many of the things that are past.on in the technology caught up with people. build the sulaiman

rown story -- i remember saying, mike, i documented all that he had received calls from members from gray's campaign. show when they first started talking to him and the days before the debates and kinds of things. his role people what was. >> sulaiman brown was a minor candidate. paying attention to him. debates he was lively. the main thing at the debate was would beat up on fenty. go ad a slogan -- go gray, brown, vote any color, just don't go fenty. he became character on the campaign trail. in one point, fenty was shaken i at one of the debates by the sulaiman brown was saying about him. so what i have found is that, things have just caught up with people.

oday you can easily look at campaign finance records and see the patterns because you can set up your own data base. very easy to do that. ten years ago or 15 years ago, you will have go through campaign finance reports hand to figure out the patterns and to see things. thompson, you know, the washington city paper has one a very good job of kind of documenting all of the money from the network, not that all that money was corrupt. but you can definitely see the attern of, you know, how many giving, how many of his relatives were giving and basically were bundled in the same day. how marion xplain barry continues to be in public office. times. been mayor four >> yes.

>> prison, six months. >> yes. incaught in a cocaine arrest the viking hotel or whatever it was. >> vista. >> yes, excuse me. the famous vista video. he's not paid taxes, picked up for speeding. where he was making sure one of his girlfriends got some money from the government. keep on that just rolling? barry, it's marion interesting. he knows the law. went ahead and told he d.c. council at the ethics board that's occurred in the last two years. there's an ethics board that conflicts of interest, etc. and he told the ethics board, i , there were contractors, took some money from them. there was a gift. had dn't influence what i done. but i thought i should report it. and right now the council is figure out, what are they going to do about nair

i don't know barry and this situation? voted 12-0 to take his committee away from him? >> yes. yes. now?hat can they do to him >> they could refer the matter -- they could push to efer the matter to the u.s. attorney's office. >> i want you back up -- >> the u.s. attorney's office is now. right >> he actually reported -- >> yes, he reported it himself. that is one of the, i think, if on barry -- i don't know you call it mystique or he's he's like, atever, okay, yes. this is what i did. i did it, you know? uncover t going to something. he's going to tell you. what the to tell you deal is. >> he's 78. >> did someone give him a kidney? yes, in my story, i explain all of the connections that jeffrey thompson has had through the years. is he gave marion barry's

son a job at one time. -- you know, he gave a the woman who had given marion barry a kidney. has had a lot of health problems through the is still here and very much -- he seems like he's going to be here a lot longer. explain how johnson did his work and how he contributed to these campaigns? how did he work? thecall him the governor of district? >> the governor of the district of columbia. that is the name he gave himself. he called himself the governor. i should start -- i think he was trying to start earlier with mayor anthony williams. mayor anthony williams, he -- ago?wo mayors, three mayors

>> he ran the city for eight years. he was a friend of jeffrey thompson. e was on the search committee for a chief financial officer of the city. and he tapped his friend, williams for the job. i said i think he'll be good for job. >> a picture of anthony williams on the screen. >> yes. so -- so, you know, asically, you asked how he worked. well, he was very hands on. if he was going to give to you, he wanted to see you, he wanted shake your hand. he wasn't just going to write a check and let that be the end of it. wanted to show you that he could raise a great deal of you. for so one of the things that i wrote about in my story is, you when he would have these his office, he

would get checks from each employee and he would look at checks and if they were sizable, he would place them in his jacket pocket. not, he would e give them to his secretary. likes to give the andidates the large checks as bundles to show, you know, what fundraiser he was. >> i want to show you some this.ics of all of we found this on the rush limbaugh website, just to show in a at is talked about conservative radio environment to the outside world. and get your is comments. >> this is natural, folks. hat's -- why are all d.c. mayors corrupt? that is that is the question. -- why are uestion all washington, d.c. -- and it's proposition.this.

cnn did the story. question, why are all washington mayors corrupt? answer it by asking another question -- what party from?y come they are all democrats. what kind of democrats are they? they are all liberal democrats. you want to know why every washington mayor is corrupt? it's because they are all liberal democrats. that is what they do. -- marion barry said the b-i-itch set me up. that was the sting in the hotel room. you say to that? >> it's unfair to call all d.c. corrupt. there's lieve that corruption everywhere. every city, every party. independent.ered

i've been registered as an independent since i was 18 years old. people st believe that either often do things ecause they are tempted or sometimes they compromise their or their ideals in an get what they really need. and what i mean by that is, you know, it happens all the time. on the hill. you say you believe this one the bill this is you're pushing. then all of a sudden, someone rider on to the bill. you don't believe in that but you really need to get this bill pass. me, that is a form of level.tion at a very low if we wanted to define corruption as -- i don't know how we're going define corruption. but it is -- it's unfair to say

democrats are l corrupt. say this as a person who covered politics in kentucky, new jersey. i've seep it in all of the parties and in all ethnicities. what he was 's saying. but i have. >> where are you from? >> from ft. hood, texas. i'm a military brat. my family spent some time at ft. panama. in and my parents originally met at kentucky.ll in and that is where i went to high college. d >> what college? >> western kentucky university kentucky the en, home of rand paul. there very soon. >> how did you get into this business? paper route had a

when i was a kid. hat was back in the day when the papers would be dropped off i the house at 5:00 a.m. and would help my brother fold them and put the rubber bands on them. weren't that fancy. we didn't have the bags. killeen, at i did in texas. and i wasn't very good at folding. i was a little busy reading. my brother wasn't paying anyway. ut i have always said i'm glad my mother did the lawns because otherwise i might be in the lawn business. >> where did you go after college? first job at the courier journal in louisville, kentucky. court ed everything from to cops to city hall. and then i went to gannett white plains, new

york. and i covered politics in westchester county. to the star nt ledger in new jersey where i newark city hall. to see the rtunate rise of cory booker. did you get to the post? how long have you been there? >> it's a funny story i love to tell. when i was in high school, i was very much a journalism nerd and northwesternamp at university. i met several campers. with. stayed in touch he had gotten a job at "the washington post." they were like, you have anyone be looking at. i was at the star ledger at the time. nikita stewart. the post called me and i ended up at "the washington post." when? >> that was in 2004.

>> i only know one other nikita. his name was khrushchev. >> i think he died in 1972 -- i 1971 he died in thereabouts and i was born in 1972. my mother liked the name. here i am. >> nikita. >> back to the post, when did thompson story start for you? when did the post say we're piece.o a big you know, nobody gets four pages in the newspaper. > i joined the investigative team in december. i wrote a memo of the things i wanted to pursue. time, they decided that i should pursue this one story i've been working on. reveal it in case i finish it. agencyas focused on this for a few months. but the other story that i was jeffrey sue thompson. now, i wanted to pursue the jeffrey thompson story first. you know, i was -- i wrote

the memo and they said, we think you should pursue this agency first. so i did. the jeffrey thompson situation started heating up. we knew it was going to be happening. to do this profile is now. so i approached my editor about it. he was like, yes, that's what you should do. did.'s what i and i think we came out with a story. i was grateful that the post gave me the time and the resources to complete this kind of story. news industry is going through a transition -- i think the transitions have lasted for about ten years now. tough. resources.limited but when i presented going to

oh, i don'tas like, know. then one day, they said you jamaica. to the money. funneling wo, we're digging deep to who jeffrey thompson really is. >> a picture here. other picture, barry thompson. he's walking down a lonely road. thompson. ry >> one of his brothers. travelled to jamaica with michael ducille. >> photographer? >> a wonderful photographer. won multiple pulitzers. and he happens to be from jamaica. kingston. great to have

someone who was from jamaica at time. and jeffrey thompson's town is a pretty rural area with dirt driving there -- and oh my goodness, luckily in the post was generous enough to give a driver. r >> i want to show some of the theographs on the screen of picture of the kids in jamaica. there is barryre thompson? how old is he? >> i think he's 72. bar scene. s the >> yes, the bar scene. jamaica ots of bars in every shot is ly a bar. that's a beautiful beach where go and thompson would swim as a child.

-- had a police department in here a couple of months ago. i wanted to show you, we asked about the corruption thing. look how she handled this question. distracting, especially for the police department if a police officer and their elected officials and i hink back to the days when marion barry was going through his criminal issues. embarrassing. this is the guy who signs your paycheck,e certainlily. have e integrity, we incredible reputation for customer service and responsiveness. we do a great job fighting crime. don't get distracted by that crap. focused, do what you've got

to do. "crap," e how she uses but -- she's done a tremendous staying above the politics of this city. she could have easily been fenty into the drama.tration fenty comes into office. was e time, the city majority black. behind black leaders the scenes were pushing for hings and some people in the city believe the police chief should be black or they did ago. kathy fenty tapped lanier. and crime has gone down.

f.o.p. would beg to differ she's been.ul you live here. you know that the city is it was much safer than ten years ago. 100?rom 400 murders down to >> yes. >> that's been near kathy lanier's tenure. office, he gray took took kathy on. she hat kind of shows how can just kind of stick to the police department and whatever going on over in the city hall, you know, we're not going to get involved with it. folks who wante, to see the whole article and the video, how can they find it? "washington post".com and dc and r the governor of you'll see my story.

2013 at was a july 14, story. any other articles you're orking on right now that we could get a hint to? really, other than lots of follow-ups to the jeffrey thompson story. and, of course, when -- when he willdicted as we expect, i be a part of that coverage also. you inwas the maddest at the post after this article was published. >> that's a tough one. something article was that i had never experienced before. calls, even many from people who have criticized me since i started covering this beat or, you know, since i back d covering this city

n 2006, who were like this was an incredibly fair article. i ever asked people. i want to be fair and accurate. achieved that and l.a. one really hateful e-mail which basically was felt i was tearing down a black man -- let's there's still a lot of racial tension in this city and, you know, that's how that person felt. you know, to show, people are complicated. and i think politicians are like and the cial beings people who like politicians are beings.cial to me, they're almost not human and all i want to do is humanize them to show people that there's and and bad in everyone

sometimes good people do bad and sometimes good people do some bad things that you may not have heard about. that's what i strive to show in writing and reporting. >> nikita stewart, we're out of time. we thank you for joining us. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] for a dvd copy of the program , contact us.